Titled "三国神兵", this book looks like it's riding on the 火鳳燎原 wave of being liberal with historical characters. Even the character designs look suspiciously familiar...
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The team that brought you the dud 天下無敵小劍仙 has announced a new book, and it's none other than the nth rendition of Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
Titled "三国神兵", this book looks like it's riding on the 火鳳燎原 wave of being liberal with historical characters. Even the character designs look suspiciously familiar...
Titled "三国神兵", this book looks like it's riding on the 火鳳燎原 wave of being liberal with historical characters. Even the character designs look suspiciously familiar...
Issit out ?
The advertisement says 20th November for first issue.
I saw the weapons designs. Look better than those in Amazing Weapons 4.
I saw the weapons designs. Look better than those in Amazing Weapons 4.
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 3 2008, 12:25 PM) 
The advertisement says 20th November for first issue.
I saw the weapons designs. Look better than those in Amazing Weapons 4.
I saw the weapons designs. Look better than those in Amazing Weapons 4.
Great....Time for me to re-visit these chinese comic.
Will grab the 1st issue for preview...
I'm pretty sure this is a shrewd move by 崎駿. Surely, the opportunity to release the whole lot of weapons as merchandize is there.
You can check their website for updates. It's a bit messy, but that young girl who hosts the 天下無敵小劍仙 column is there too.
http://uma-press.com/node/82
You can find the weapons scan there. They look really like Dynasty Warriors weapons to me.
You can check their website for updates. It's a bit messy, but that young girl who hosts the 天下無敵小劍仙 column is there too.
http://uma-press.com/node/82
You can find the weapons scan there. They look really like Dynasty Warriors weapons to me.
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Its a HongKong Comic or Japanese Manga?? 
QUOTE(mikokuki @ Nov 5 2008, 09:24 PM)
Its a HongKong Comic or Japanese Manga??
Hong Kong Comics
QUOTE(akaranger @ Nov 5 2008, 09:31 PM)
QUOTE(mikokuki @ Nov 5 2008, 09:24 PM)
Its a HongKong Comic or Japanese Manga??
Hong Kong Comics
oh~ thanks bro.
QUOTE(mikokuki @ Nov 5 2008, 11:13 PM)
QUOTE(akaranger @ Nov 5 2008, 09:31 PM)
QUOTE(mikokuki @ Nov 5 2008, 09:24 PM)
Its a HongKong Comic or Japanese Manga??
Hong Kong Comics
oh~ thanks bro.
me too ..will prob check out the first issue before deciding whether to get it ..after all .. my reads .. Amazing Weapons 4 and Shen Zhou Qi Xia ..are half way towards completion ..
Same here. Placed order for it. Surely, nothing can be worse than 龙虎门?
The 曹操 wallpaper is quite... enticing.
The 曹操 wallpaper is quite... enticing.
Character designs look very good.
But been "cheated" many times by HK comics from their always cool design, but poor story and presentation.
Hope this one is good.
But been "cheated" many times by HK comics from their always cool design, but poor story and presentation.
Hope this one is good.
QUOTE(zhangzewen @ Nov 6 2008, 10:51 PM)
Character designs look very good.
But been "cheated" many times by HK comics from their always cool design, but poor story and presentation.
Hope this one is good.
But been "cheated" many times by HK comics from their always cool design, but poor story and presentation.
Hope this one is good.
I dun really have much hope in this, afterall they are doing a San Guo comics and it can not run away from the history (just like Tian Zi series), so Liu Bei or Cao Cao will never unify China, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei will have to be killed in the story and Lu Bu (even with his mighty skills) will die even before Zhuge Liang appears (if they ever draw until then).
Unless they want to totally disregard the history facts and novel's plots. But without those as a basis, will San Guo Sheng Bing still consider a San Guo comics
QUOTE(akaranger @ Nov 6 2008, 11:15 PM)
QUOTE(zhangzewen @ Nov 6 2008, 10:51 PM)
Character designs look very good.
But been "cheated" many times by HK comics from their always cool design, but poor story and presentation.
Hope this one is good.
But been "cheated" many times by HK comics from their always cool design, but poor story and presentation.
Hope this one is good.
I dun really have much hope in this, afterall they are doing a San Guo comics and it can not run away from the history (just like Tian Zi series), so Liu Bei or Cao Cao will never unify China, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei will have to be killed in the story and Lu Bu (even with his mighty skills) will die even before Zhuge Liang appears (if they ever draw until then).
Unless they want to totally disregard the history facts and novel's plots. But without those as a basis, will San Guo Sheng Bing still consider a San Guo comics
well they couldn't do any worse then to take a leaf out of the Japanese manga adaptation .. whereby Zhao Yun was a girl n if I recall .. Liu Bei was a Japanese ..talk bout ground breaking n earth shattering story lines
.. that really was bold ....
If the story can he half as good as 火鳳燎原, I'm fine. Even if the outcome of events may follow history (but what's real, what's not?), the processes leading to them can be altered to show different motives (which 火鳳 is very good at doing).
But yes, I've no major hopes on HK comics nowadays.
But yes, I've no major hopes on HK comics nowadays.
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Is it out in SG ?
Where can we get these comic book? Comic Connection ?
Cos i totally lost touch ~~!!!
Where can we get these comic book? Comic Connection ?
Cos i totally lost touch ~~!!!
20th November. Go to any Chinese Comic shop and place order before release. Comics Connection don't carry much titles. It's always 龙虎门 and 神兵 that I see.
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 13 2008, 01:27 PM)
20th November. Go to any Chinese Comic shop and place order before release. Comics Connection don't carry much titles. It's always 龙虎门 and 神兵 that I see.
Thank for the info
hmmmm.....Anyone noe any Chinese Comic Shop in Sengkang ?
Already placed my order with my friendly neighbouhood comics shop (not CC) :lo:
I checked with CC.
They are bringing in.
They are bringing in.
Will this title ends up like one of those VERY LONG 200+ vol comic?
I love to collect it for the fact that its ROTK
I love to collect it for the fact that its ROTK
Judging by 葉明發's usual standards, I'd be happy if he goes beyond 20 issues! He's very inconsistent.
Heard that this book will have a video gaming influence/ approach. More like they want to draw a Monster Hunter comic, but is afraid that there's no market for it. Thus, they use Three Kingdoms as a basis to draw the Monster Hunter-style comic, which explains the weapons and monsters you see in the ads.
Heard that this book will have a video gaming influence/ approach. More like they want to draw a Monster Hunter comic, but is afraid that there's no market for it. Thus, they use Three Kingdoms as a basis to draw the Monster Hunter-style comic, which explains the weapons and monsters you see in the ads.
Well....Three Kingdoms had been quite HOT in recent years....
Hope that the storyline are good.....even we noe what happened in Three Kingdoms.
Hope that the storyline are good.....even we noe what happened in Three Kingdoms.
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 17 2008, 12:10 PM)
Judging by 葉明發's usual standards, I'd be happy if he goes beyond 20 issues! He's very inconsistent.
Heard that this book will have a video gaming influence/ approach. More like they want to draw a Monster Hunter comic, but is afraid that there's no market for it. Thus, they use Three Kingdoms as a basis to draw the Monster Hunter-style comic, which explains the weapons and monsters you see in the ads.
Heard that this book will have a video gaming influence/ approach. More like they want to draw a Monster Hunter comic, but is afraid that there's no market for it. Thus, they use Three Kingdoms as a basis to draw the Monster Hunter-style comic, which explains the weapons and monsters you see in the ads.
20 issues?! So short???
I will be kind to say 100 if someone want to do a proper comic for ROTK...
Just the meeting of Liu Bei, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei can stuck for a few while. Not forgetting the Yellow Turban troops before that.
Then
Dong Zhuo ruling.
Guan Du Battle
Cao Cao expansion downwards
Sun Jian and Sun Ce growth
cmi Liu Bei fleeing ard to seek refuge
Battle of Chi Bi
Forming of 3 Kingdoms
Downfall of Shu and then Wu
Collapse of Wei
And thats not considering all the in depth mythical stories to each character...
To HK comics, as long as it doesn't sell, they'll cut the book by ending it abruptly. 葉明發 already has 3-4 titles that were ended this way, so I really won't be surprised if the book ends quickly. They may even tell you, oh, "Part 1" ends, stay tune for "Part 2", which will never be released.
I'm just hoping that:
1. Story will be good, less buggy, and they plan ahead for the story;
2. Art is consistent;
3. And if the above two are present, that someone actually buys it.
I'm just hoping that:
1. Story will be good, less buggy, and they plan ahead for the story;
2. Art is consistent;
3. And if the above two are present, that someone actually buys it.
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 17 2008, 05:04 PM)
To HK comics, as long as it doesn't sell, they'll cut the book by ending it abruptly. 葉明發 already has 3-4 titles that were ended this way, so I really won't be surprised if the book ends quickly. They may even tell you, oh, "Part 1" ends, stay tune for "Part 2", which will never be released.
I'm just hoping that:
1. Story will be good, less buggy, and they plan ahead for the story;
2. Art is consistent;
3. And if the above two are present, that someone actually buys it.
I'm just hoping that:
1. Story will be good, less buggy, and they plan ahead for the story;
2. Art is consistent;
3. And if the above two are present, that someone actually buys it.
thanks for the information!
Then i better just try issue1 see the artwork how 1st....
Btw, any specials for issue1 for this title? Anyway, its been quite a while since i buy hk comics (since Sheng Bing part1), may i know how much does one copy cost nowadays???
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 17 2008, 05:04 PM)
To HK comics, as long as it doesn't sell, they'll cut the book by ending it abruptly. 葉明發 already has 3-4 titles that were ended this way, so I really won't be surprised if the book ends quickly. They may even tell you, oh, "Part 1" ends, stay tune for "Part 2", which will never be released.
I'm just hoping that:
1. Story will be good, less buggy, and they plan ahead for the story;
2. Art is consistent;
3. And if the above two are present, that someone actually buys it.
I'm just hoping that:
1. Story will be good, less buggy, and they plan ahead for the story;
2. Art is consistent;
3. And if the above two are present, that someone actually buys it.
Scary~~!!!
I've been reading HK comics for years (almost three decades!) and the recent trend is always similar. The reason why 天下無敵小劍仙 can go beyond 20 issues is because the book, regardless of how crap it is, actually sells. They even increased print because it's very popular among the HK fans, what with 小劍仙 being involved and all. I believe they sell 90% of the book they printed (they mentioned in one issue), and 90% is a very high number nowadays. Many HK comics can have up to 80% returns, which is why a new kind of business has surfaced, that of "back copies" service. Where do all these back copies come from? It's from unsold printed copies!
It's amazing how a fantastic book like 中华英雄 数码复刻版 (it's reissued by 崎駿, the same company releasing this book) only prints 10,000 copies, and 天下無敵小劍仙 goes close to 30,000. But that's how it goes. The book sells, and they continue to release it. 天下無敵小劍仙 is supposed to be a 16-20 issues thing, and it's now beyond 20, filling in for time (and of course, revenue) until 三国神兵 is released. The success of 天下無敵小劍仙 (in terms of sales - I still regard this book as an utter failure in terms of story, art, nostalgia, everything) is also why Tony Wong is buying the copyright for 醉拳 to release their crappily named 黄玉郎醉拳. It's for the same reason that 神掌龍劍飛, originally planned as an 18-issue title, has now became an indefinite title. Apparently it sells enough copies to warrant an extension.
The three points I mentioned earlier about story, art and sales volume is more or less my hope for this book. As a reader, obviously I'd hope for good story and art. If good story and art are present, obviously I'd hope that the book continues, and the only thing that keeps it going is sales. 神兵4, which started really well, suffered because not enough people buys it. The quality has decreased quite badly. Art is still ok for some parts, but story is totally haywire. It's now used as a filler for revenue until 黄玉郎醉拳 is released, but its quality will continue to drop as the artist is drawing 黄玉郎醉拳.
It's amazing how a fantastic book like 中华英雄 数码复刻版 (it's reissued by 崎駿, the same company releasing this book) only prints 10,000 copies, and 天下無敵小劍仙 goes close to 30,000. But that's how it goes. The book sells, and they continue to release it. 天下無敵小劍仙 is supposed to be a 16-20 issues thing, and it's now beyond 20, filling in for time (and of course, revenue) until 三国神兵 is released. The success of 天下無敵小劍仙 (in terms of sales - I still regard this book as an utter failure in terms of story, art, nostalgia, everything) is also why Tony Wong is buying the copyright for 醉拳 to release their crappily named 黄玉郎醉拳. It's for the same reason that 神掌龍劍飛, originally planned as an 18-issue title, has now became an indefinite title. Apparently it sells enough copies to warrant an extension.
The three points I mentioned earlier about story, art and sales volume is more or less my hope for this book. As a reader, obviously I'd hope for good story and art. If good story and art are present, obviously I'd hope that the book continues, and the only thing that keeps it going is sales. 神兵4, which started really well, suffered because not enough people buys it. The quality has decreased quite badly. Art is still ok for some parts, but story is totally haywire. It's now used as a filler for revenue until 黄玉郎醉拳 is released, but its quality will continue to drop as the artist is drawing 黄玉郎醉拳.
I used to read quite a lot (borrow from fren)....now totally lost touch......
Never know so much info.
Thank.
The latest issue of 王風雷傳 is released on 20th as well, a day earlier than its usual Friday (that's our Saturday, due to shipping) release in HK.
Rumors are that JD is trying to make it difficult for 三国神兵 to survive by doing so. Imagine, 龙虎门 and 王風雷傳 (the top two selling comics in HK right now) both released on the same day, who'd buy 三国神兵?
Take it with a pinch of salt, but this HK comics industry is really like politics now.
Meanwhile, hope to pick up 三国神兵 from the shop later. Don't know whether will have.
Rumors are that JD is trying to make it difficult for 三国神兵 to survive by doing so. Imagine, 龙虎门 and 王風雷傳 (the top two selling comics in HK right now) both released on the same day, who'd buy 三国神兵?
Take it with a pinch of salt, but this HK comics industry is really like politics now.
Meanwhile, hope to pick up 三国神兵 from the shop later. Don't know whether will have.
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 21 2008, 12:04 PM)
The latest issue of 王風雷傳 is released on 20th as well, a day earlier than its usual Friday (that's our Saturday, due to shipping) release in HK.
Rumors are that JD is trying to make it difficult for 三国神兵 to survive by doing so. Imagine, 龙虎门 and 王風雷傳 (the top two selling comics in HK right now) both released on the same day, who'd buy 三国神兵?
Take it with a pinch of salt, but this HK comics industry is really like politics now.
Meanwhile, hope to pick up 三国神兵 from the shop later. Don't know whether will have.
Rumors are that JD is trying to make it difficult for 三国神兵 to survive by doing so. Imagine, 龙虎门 and 王風雷傳 (the top two selling comics in HK right now) both released on the same day, who'd buy 三国神兵?
Take it with a pinch of salt, but this HK comics industry is really like politics now.
Meanwhile, hope to pick up 三国神兵 from the shop later. Don't know whether will have.
No worry loh, I went to two comics connection outlets, yes i am that free, 三国神兵 definitely more than enough for everyone. One CC outlet shop assistant, which i didn't even ask, took the initiaitve to recommend the title to me.
I got it at uncle - he's at Ginza... I mean, West Coast Plaza now.
Art is decent, but story is a total zero.
The Three Kingdoms characters in this book are "chosen" to own tremendous powers, together with an accompanying weapon that has different elemental powers. Apart from that, the weapons also have accompanying mystic creatures that can be summoned. It's all very fantasy, Japanese RPG-like, and I kinda dig the concept.
But as I said, the story is a zero here. 52 pages and there's no direction at all, just fighting all the way. It's a bit sad.
Art is decent, but story is a total zero.
The Three Kingdoms characters in this book are "chosen" to own tremendous powers, together with an accompanying weapon that has different elemental powers. Apart from that, the weapons also have accompanying mystic creatures that can be summoned. It's all very fantasy, Japanese RPG-like, and I kinda dig the concept.
But as I said, the story is a zero here. 52 pages and there's no direction at all, just fighting all the way. It's a bit sad.
Sounds a bit interesting to you. At least no story is better than lousy story.
I manage to get a copy too after reading all the hype about this title. But like what convoy have mentioned, it has absolutely no story line at all.. I am kind of disappointed with the start. I am starting to wonder how is this title going to continue if it doesn't have any storyline or plot to follow through...
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 21 2008, 10:41 PM)
I got it at uncle - he's at Ginza... I mean, West Coast Plaza now.
Art is decent, but story is a total zero.
The Three Kingdoms characters in this book are "chosen" to own tremendous powers, together with an accompanying weapon that has different elemental powers. Apart from that, the weapons also have accompanying mystic creatures that can be summoned. It's all very fantasy, Japanese RPG-like, and I kinda dig the concept.
But as I said, the story is a zero here. 52 pages and there's no direction at all, just fighting all the way. It's a bit sad.
Art is decent, but story is a total zero.
The Three Kingdoms characters in this book are "chosen" to own tremendous powers, together with an accompanying weapon that has different elemental powers. Apart from that, the weapons also have accompanying mystic creatures that can be summoned. It's all very fantasy, Japanese RPG-like, and I kinda dig the concept.
But as I said, the story is a zero here. 52 pages and there's no direction at all, just fighting all the way. It's a bit sad.
i went to CC....out of stock.....
need to order issue 1 again......but seemed like quite bad.
need to order issue 1 again......but seemed like quite bad.
QUOTE(super_convoy @ Nov 21 2008, 10:41 PM)
I got it at uncle - he's at Ginza... I mean, West Coast Plaza now.
Art is decent, but story is a total zero.
The Three Kingdoms characters in this book are "chosen" to own tremendous powers, together with an accompanying weapon that has different elemental powers. Apart from that, the weapons also have accompanying mystic creatures that can be summoned. It's all very fantasy, Japanese RPG-like, and I kinda dig the concept.
But as I said, the story is a zero here. 52 pages and there's no direction at all, just fighting all the way. It's a bit sad.
Art is decent, but story is a total zero.
The Three Kingdoms characters in this book are "chosen" to own tremendous powers, together with an accompanying weapon that has different elemental powers. Apart from that, the weapons also have accompanying mystic creatures that can be summoned. It's all very fantasy, Japanese RPG-like, and I kinda dig the concept.
But as I said, the story is a zero here. 52 pages and there's no direction at all, just fighting all the way. It's a bit sad.
Ha ha.... I also get from the same uncle at Ginza (am a regular at his shop since 1996)
Just return fm overseas have not seen the story though. Will be picking up from uncle later in the afternoon (asked him to reserved for me liao).
I hope to go to uncle this evening for my books coz today most probably working late. Hope he remembers to order my 李小龍 reissue. It has been weeks. If you see him, please tell him Lestor asks where are his 李小龍!
Is this the same uncle who used to have his shop in Ginza, he also sell plastic covers for those japanese manga?
I used to visit him to get manga and big qty of covers till i was told that he moved due to Ginza's renovation. Where is he located now actually???
I used to visit him to get manga and big qty of covers till i was told that he moved due to Ginza's renovation. Where is he located now actually???
Uncle moved to Blk 713 Clementi West St. 2, and stayed there for some months before moving to Blk 72+ (can't remember exact number), beside the Singapore Pools shop. He has since returned to Ginza, now renamed West Coast Plaza. If you cross that infamous overhead bridge leading to Ginza/ West Coast Plaza, you should find his shop conveniently tucked near the entrance near the bridge, beside the newly opened BBQ Chicken Restaurant.
Read 2nd issue. It's better than the first one. Looks like it's time to fight the Yellow Turbans.
Oh! So the uncle back in Ginza already?!
Okayz, thanks pal.
"Uncle, Here i come. "
I need to buy many manga and book covers from him
Okayz, thanks pal.
"Uncle, Here i come.
"I need to buy many manga and book covers from him
What a brilliant cover, for the introduction of 呂布﹗
End at Issue 16 ?
Me still have not collected my 15.
Me still have not collected my 15.
No, just the end of the Yellow Turbans story.
I'm quite disappointed that this book is becoming "Monster Hunter - Three Kingdoms version". Too many monsters-slaying scenes, which resulted in very slow pace. 16 issues to do Yellow Turbans is ridiculous.
Apparently they've received the same feedback from readers, and will switch the format to a short-story format. I'll see how it goes from here before deciding whether to continue buying.
I'm quite disappointed that this book is becoming "Monster Hunter - Three Kingdoms version". Too many monsters-slaying scenes, which resulted in very slow pace. 16 issues to do Yellow Turbans is ridiculous.
Apparently they've received the same feedback from readers, and will switch the format to a short-story format. I'll see how it goes from here before deciding whether to continue buying.
Got issue 15,16....
i was being informed by the salegirl that the next 5 issues comes with weapons.....anyone getting or what is the diff in pricing from a normal issue $4?
i was being informed by the salegirl that the next 5 issues comes with weapons.....anyone getting or what is the diff in pricing from a normal issue $4?
Not getting. Decided to stop buying after reading #16.
Special edition usually goes for HK$28, so it's double the price. But it really depends on how much the publisher charges. For a gauge HK$14 (normal weekly issue) is about S$4+ in terms of comic shop's exchange rate (factor in shipping and profit).
Special edition usually goes for HK$28, so it's double the price. But it really depends on how much the publisher charges. For a gauge HK$14 (normal weekly issue) is about S$4+ in terms of comic shop's exchange rate (factor in shipping and profit).
Just gotten this pc ..
compared to JD's and Tian Xia's offerings ..this weapon really pales in comparison .. in terms of paint, sculpt
worst still ..its plastic and not metallic
well I'm a weapons collector ..so I guess will continue to get the rest ...
compared to JD's and Tian Xia's offerings ..this weapon really pales in comparison .. in terms of paint, sculpt
worst still ..its plastic and not metallic
well I'm a weapons collector ..so I guess will continue to get the rest ...
Turned out I continued buying after deciding to stop some weeks ago. The new story is quite disappointing. A lot of big pictures per page and not much pace in terms of story as usual. Over at the HK forums, there's a hoo-hah about this book copying concepts from mangas:
Obviously, readers complained. But guess the response from the publishers:
(this is from latest issue, you'll get it tomorrow in Singapore)
He's accusing that people who complained are those who downloaded the comic, and labelled them as "turtles".
This is worse than ridiculous, and I immediately called comic shop to cancel my order.
I feel sorry for the girl who has been trying very hard to promote the book and respond to feedback on their official website. It's very rare to have a comic publisher doing this sort of thing, opening its website to allow people to post their views. Too bad her boss is a nutcase.
Obviously, readers complained. But guess the response from the publishers:
(this is from latest issue, you'll get it tomorrow in Singapore)
He's accusing that people who complained are those who downloaded the comic, and labelled them as "turtles".
This is worse than ridiculous, and I immediately called comic shop to cancel my order.
I feel sorry for the girl who has been trying very hard to promote the book and respond to feedback on their official website. It's very rare to have a comic publisher doing this sort of thing, opening its website to allow people to post their views. Too bad her boss is a nutcase.
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