Izzyfcuk
Nov 2 2007, 11:52 PM
keldorn
Nov 3 2007, 08:02 AM
Looks just like those Yamatos, really tempting. But the price is very likely to be discouraging.
keldorn
Nov 3 2007, 08:02 AM
Double post, sorry please delete. Thanks.
Shun
Nov 22 2007, 12:17 AM

Stick Type ...
Link
Rey Type ...
LinkSize: approx 120mm
Details: PVC・ABS・POM・Die-cast full-colored action figure
Release date: 2007 late Dec !!
Price: 6,300yen
hmmm now that i've seen this, dunno should get CMs' or megahouse's...
can helmet be removed??

also, Rey's bike should not have the "21" marking -.-
ps > article says Legioss and Tread (alpha + beta) coming in Feb....
keldorn
Nov 22 2007, 08:40 AM
Ya loh, any bro can comment on the differences between the different manufacturer products?
Friday13
Nov 23 2007, 12:03 AM
the bike looks "bigger" than megahouse...that my opinion...(the height of the bike looks good but the length is kind o short"
but at same time...i not impressed by the "colours" judging from the pics...looks a bit off and kind of light...thus making it look kind of "kiddy"
hmm...the only thing at does not do much justice if the helmet can be removed or not.....i believe all would like the helmet to be removable.
Shun
Nov 23 2007, 12:35 AM
yes i agree with Friday13 on the color and size.
size - seems like a better figure-to-bike proportion compared to Megahouse's version (which the bike is too small). The figure itself is 10cm tall (probably 12cm when in ride armor mode), overall should be slightly smaller than Megahouse's.
color - too light. but maybe it was the photo lighting?
accessories - Stick's bike came with the 3 storage boxes, while Rey's don't seem to come with any. (this seems to be opposite of Megahouse's according to official pics as of now) EDIT: new pics show that both comes with storage boxes.
detailing - seems less detail compared to Megahouse's? also the chest part looks flat and no details?
other points worth a note - Rey's bike should not have that '21' marking. Is the helmet removable?
EDIT:
- seems like Megahouse's version transformation need removing parts etc, but CM's is fully transformable (no swapping of parts).
Izzyfcuk
Nov 23 2007, 12:40 AM
Agreed that the color looks too light.
Megahouse's ones seems to be more blocky = more closer to the old gakken ones
CMS's ones looks more slick though, either way, im getting both
with alpha and beta coming as well.........im all over it.
Shun
Nov 23 2007, 01:18 AM
more pics of CMS' version.
looks really plastiky granted this is pre-colored. end product might be better.
but seems too expensive for such a small size.

CMS coming in dec so soon?! anyone knows which shop bringing in?
transformers76
Nov 23 2007, 10:51 AM
but CM's price finalise liao ?
Shun
Nov 24 2007, 07:57 AM
yeah, 6300 yen. quite expensive for a 10cm toy.


notice CMs' name labels, colors are all wrong. they got it mixed up... -.-
i.e >
S.Bernard supposed to be "21" with 4 missiles on forearms, and red arms/blue knees.
Rey supposed to be gun on right forearm, blue arms/red knees.
in the animation, theres no "31" label, but this old model has it.
jezter101
Nov 24 2007, 07:48 PM
the colors look really off... will hold the purchase til i see the actual thing.
Epyon
Nov 27 2007, 01:20 AM
QUOTE(Izzyfcuk @ Nov 23 2007, 12:40 AM)

Agreed that the color looks too light.
Megahouse's ones seems to be more blocky = more closer to the old gakken ones
CMS's ones looks more slick though, either way, im getting both
with alpha and beta coming as well.........im all over it.
You meant the opposite isit? I find Megahouse more slick and CMS more blocky or is it just me?? I was quite sure abt gettin the Megahouse til I read its not fully transformable.. shucks.. Mayb I will get both too.
keldorn
Nov 27 2007, 08:31 AM
What, Megahouse Cyclone not transformable? The pic shows both modes leh.
Epyon
Nov 27 2007, 11:14 AM
QUOTE(keldorn @ Nov 27 2007, 08:31 AM)

What, Megahouse Cyclone not transformable? The pic shows both modes leh.
Not fully transformable, in the sense that you may need to remove some parts to complete the transformation. Anyway its not confirmed, juz a spectulation.
Anyway in the Megahouse Thread, you may understand more here:
http://www.sgcollect.com/forum/index.php?s...30&start=30
Shun
Dec 27 2007, 04:28 PM
thank god they realised their mistake (coloring n numbering)
but the bad news is that - the release date is postponed to late Jan (was late dec)


the pics looked photoshopped though... heh
More info / pics at
TD
GGGG00
Dec 27 2007, 10:01 PM
Details at this link:
http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-49083-1-1.htmlLegioss & thread full coloured. Looks better proportioned than Toynami/Aoshima, but the looks plasticky though. Scheduled to be release in late Feb 08 (in time to rob our Ang Pow money (applicable to singles only

) RRP 29,400YEN.
Izzyfcuk
Dec 27 2007, 10:59 PM
this looks so much better
Friday13
Dec 28 2007, 12:46 AM
somehow i still find it "kiddy"....
Turnman
Dec 28 2007, 06:37 AM
QUOTE(Friday13 @ Dec 28 2007, 12:46 AM)

somehow i still find it "kiddy"....
Why is there a 29400 an a 21181 yen price??
alpha_counter
Dec 28 2007, 07:42 AM
I hope they sell it separately
Dogbomber
Dec 28 2007, 10:33 AM
QUOTE(alpha_counter @ Dec 28 2007, 07:42 AM)

I hope they sell it separately

defintely I will not get that motorcycle robot
but will get the jet..
how come so expensive..all diecast or make of gold?
alpha_counter
Dec 28 2007, 10:50 AM
QUOTE(Dogbomber @ Dec 28 2007, 10:33 AM)

QUOTE(alpha_counter @ Dec 28 2007, 07:42 AM)

I hope they sell it separately

defintely I will not get that motorcycle robot
but will get the jet..
how come so expensive..all diecast or make of gold?
my appologies
maybe i did not word myself clearly
I hope they sell the alpha and beta fighter separately
Shun
Dec 28 2007, 02:01 PM
its crazy... the price is 28000yen before tax.
more expensive than the Chogokin God Mars 23000yen. that explains why this series is called Brave gokin
"EX" lol...
complaints:
1. chest air intake "hole" too small. very disappointed.
2. plasticky
3. cockpit not colored
seems like the official rrp is set too high. 21180yen is the pre-order price for rakuten, and seems much more reasonable.
Luckily the red and green ones are not yet released. will be crazy if they release all at the same time.. lol.
compare that chest intake:

alpha_counter
Dec 28 2007, 03:28 PM
QUOTE(Shun @ Dec 28 2007, 02:01 PM)

its crazy... the price is 28000yen before tax.
more expensive than the Chogokin God Mars 23000yen. that explains why this series is called Brave gokin "EX" lol...
complaints:
1. chest air intake "hole" too small. very disappointed.
2. plasticky
3. cockpit not colored
seems like the official rrp is set too high. 21180yen is the pre-order price for rakuten, and seems much more reasonable.
Luckily the red and green ones are not yet released. will be crazy if they release all at the same time.. lol.
compare that chest intake:
Thats why I am hoping they sell the alpha and beta separately
I dont think it will be so costly if sold each by itself
Shun
Dec 28 2007, 06:39 PM
if they sell separately, they will have trouble getting rid of some stocks.
imho, blue comes in a set is ok.
also, green beta still acceptable, but did we ever see a red beta in the anime? don't recall ever seeing one. :S
don't forget got 2 more: black manned version and un-manned version =X
Dogbomber
Dec 28 2007, 08:58 PM
QUOTE(Shun @ Dec 28 2007, 02:01 PM)

its crazy... the price is 28000yen before tax.
more expensive than the Chogokin God Mars 23000yen. that explains why this series is called Brave gokin
"EX" lol...
complaints:
1. chest air intake "hole" too small. very disappointed.
2. plasticky
3. cockpit not colored
seems like the official rrp is set too high. 21180yen is the pre-order price for rakuten, and seems much more reasonable.
Luckily the red and green ones are not yet released. will be crazy if they release all at the same time.. lol.
compare that chest intake:


oh my god!! after seeing the comparison pictures u posted, I cannot help but pointing out that the new version chest look like the girl whose breasts are shrinking after baby stops the breast feeding..
No offence, and it looks too plastics.
one question, how come this toy can be produced by so many companies one but all still plastic?
Izzyfcuk
Dec 28 2007, 09:31 PM
is it a pre-requisite that the more company produces the same toy, it must be die-cast?
summerplace31
Dec 29 2007, 03:43 AM
Hope this image helps everyone make their decision better, well... at least for poor people like me who cannot afford both CM's and Megahouse's cyclones... Put side by side and compare~!!!

Personally, I prefer Megahouse's. CM seems to be going for a retro look (resembling the original vintage Cyclone, the made in Singapore one

) while Megahouse is introducing brighter colours. Do agree that the rider seems a bit too big for the bike for Megahouse, but so far there aren't "un-helmet-ed" heads for CM's right...? The only thing that really bothers me is that Megahouse's seems to be lacking storage boxes... :S
Think will stick to Megahouse for the cyclones. I haven't own any CM or Megahouse products before... May I ask (if it is a fair question in the first place, if not just ignore) which company has a better reputation for QC / durability...?
As for Legioss, sigh, cannot lah... 29400 JPY use XE.com convert is 376.856 SGD!!! That's... way beyond budget. Got ang-pow also not like that spend one... Will be happy w/ just the bikes

Must commend though, the Legioss look good. Small breasted or what-not, the overall proportion and colours are quite appealing. Reminds me of G2 Starscream and BB (just that this one small plane goes in front). Muaha. Just started watching the anime, quite exciting I must say... considering its >20 yrs old...!
alpha_counter
Dec 31 2007, 10:42 AM
376.856 SGD is beyond my budget
I cannot understand how the legioss can be more expensive then GodMars (6 robots!!)
max0
Dec 31 2007, 11:56 AM
QUOTE(alpha_counter @ Dec 31 2007, 10:42 AM)

376.856 SGD is beyond my budget
I cannot understand how the legioss can be more expensive then GodMars (6 robots!!)

CMS transformation toy all damn ex. Eg GGG series. So i am not too surprise.
alpha_counter
Jan 2 2008, 10:17 AM
does any kind souls have any feedback on the aoshima/miracle house legioss?
weekiat
Jan 2 2008, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(alpha_counter @ Jan 2 2008, 10:17 AM)

does any kind souls have any feedback on the aoshima/miracle house legioss?

I do have the blue legioss from Aoshima , toy quality looks plasticky leh , feels fragile too . Didnt transform the toy to play . Paint job not done well , a few blotches of paint on some parts .
alpha_counter
Jan 2 2008, 11:20 AM
QUOTE(weekiat @ Jan 2 2008, 11:09 AM)

QUOTE(alpha_counter @ Jan 2 2008, 10:17 AM)

does any kind souls have any feedback on the aoshima/miracle house legioss?

I do have the blue legioss from Aoshima , toy quality looks plasticky leh , feels fragile too . Didnt transform the toy to play . Paint job not done well , a few blotches of paint on some parts .
hmm.
the cm corporation 1 looks less fragile
maybe need 2 c more pix
Malakite
Jan 2 2008, 11:34 AM
Wah Cau!

That's damn blardy Ex la! I really wanted the toy.... but now......sheesh
Deimos
Jan 2 2008, 05:36 PM
high price for a initial release. quite risky to commit.
GGGG00
Jan 2 2008, 09:47 PM
CMS products tend to be expensive as they dun produce large quantities. Anyway, in terms of diecast content, CMS brave gokin series usually live up to its name. QC wise they are improving but their paintworks so far still have room for improvement. It's not so much of bad or shoddy paintjob but their choice of flat colours tend to cheapen the look of their toys.
xtrememorph
Jan 3 2008, 12:21 PM
hiya.. hsien.. still wonder want to commit to this toy or not.. bloody expensive..
so for i got CMs labors, so far no serious complaints as it is not very articulated (comparing to revoltech.. hahaha (unfair for die cast lah))...
hiya... hsien.. see how lah.
but one thing for sure CMs product.. bloody ex
Izzyfcuk
Jan 3 2008, 01:08 PM
waited 10+ years for this,
will have to see the actual product before i commit.
hope it doesn't disappoint
alpha_counter
Jan 9 2008, 12:56 PM
Dogbomber
Jan 9 2008, 01:04 PM
it is totally plastic!!
I think less than 10% of die cast on it!!!
Malakite
Jan 9 2008, 01:48 PM
Hey bros out there, any word or news on the cyclones? Was supposed to be here late dec, but got delayed..problem is, delayed until when?
Izzyfcuk
Jan 9 2008, 02:04 PM
QUOTE(Dogbomber @ Jan 9 2008, 01:04 PM)

it is totally plastic!!
I think less than 10% of die cast on it!!!
who told u it was die-cast in the first place?
Green - CMS website exclusive
Red - TRU exclusive
alpha_counter
Jan 9 2008, 02:28 PM
QUOTE(Dogbomber @ Jan 9 2008, 01:04 PM)

it is totally plastic!!
I think less than 10% of die cast on it!!!
now that u mention
it really does look plasticky
but it looks good
GGGG00
Jan 9 2008, 03:37 PM
For a brave-gokin line, I would expect some decent amt of diecast. Nonetheless, so far so good, quite like the proportions although, the chest part does look a bit weird.
Izzyfcuk
Jan 9 2008, 04:32 PM
from the pics, especially the cyclone ones, we can safely conclude that the die-cast is mainly on the support joints.
evidently, the red alpha's shoulders and under chest shows the die-cast.
Shun
Jan 9 2008, 05:59 PM
wow... thanks for the pics...
i'd say it looks quite good! altho abit plasticky, and that chest is really bothering me... guess have to see if i can swap it with a more anime accurate chest....
the cyclone on the edge of that pic looks better - not so plasticky? perhaps due to the color. supposed to come this month.
And Izzyfcuk,
Green - CMS website exclusive
Red - TRU exclusive
u mean they're coming out as well? at the same time? wah lao how to get the exclusives liddat.... esp the green one. i hope they slowly release, the price too ex for one time
Deimos
Jan 9 2008, 09:43 PM
a lot of poison on those pics.
Dogbomber
Jan 9 2008, 09:49 PM
QUOTE(Shun @ Jan 9 2008, 05:59 PM)

wow... thanks for the pics...
i'd say it looks quite good! altho abit plasticky, and that chest is really bothering me... guess have to see if i can swap it with a more anime accurate chest....
the cyclone on the edge of that pic looks better - not so plasticky? perhaps due to the color. supposed to come this month.
And Izzyfcuk,
Green - CMS website exclusive
Red - TRU exclusive
u mean they're coming out as well? at the same time? wah lao how to get the exclusives liddat.... esp the green one. i hope they slowly release, the price too ex for one time

Actually, the red one got the SHARK head!!! if not carefully, u will break it, should get the green and blue one..as they have monk head!
Izzyfcuk
Jan 9 2008, 10:09 PM
QUOTE(Shun @ Jan 9 2008, 05:59 PM)

wow... thanks for the pics...
u mean they're coming out as well? at the same time? wah lao how to get the exclusives liddat.... esp the green one. i hope they slowly release, the price too ex for one time

oh,
i read it in www.tokyohunter.blogspot.com.....
it's says green in march and another in april i think, check out the blog.
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